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電視遊戲討論版>大家點睇Fortnite下架事件? | Epic Games、騰訊 VS Apple、Google
IDGAF 12:33 PM 08-14-20
《要塞英雄》遭雙平台下架,Epic Games與Apple、Google正式開戰

https://www.4gamers.com.tw/news/deta...from-app-store

【課金爭端】蘋果下架Fortnite 遊戲廠Epic興訟斥壟斷

https://hk.appledaily.com/finance/20...N7EYKNRJMN4TI/

Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite - #FreeFortnite
Epic Games has defied the App Store Monopoly. In retaliation, Apple is blocking Fortnite from a billion devices. Visit fn.gg/freefortnite and join the fight to stop 2020 from becoming "1984"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euiSHuaw6Q4






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IDGAF 12:53 PM 08-14-20
Fortnite Removed From App Store, Epic Games Suing Apple | Save State
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85Q3D-qIwVw
In today's gaming news, Fortnite developer Epic Games is suing Apple after Fortnite was removed from the App Store. Apple claims Epic violated App Store guidelines after introducing a new way to buy cheaper V-bucks, directly bypassing the App Store fee.



Apple Removes Fortnite From iOS App Store - IGN Now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nn4aDwdIvo
Apple has responded to Epic's alteration to Fortnite V-Buck purchasing options, citing it as a violation of the App Store guidelines.


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IDGAF 12:55 PM 08-14-20
以前應該安裝過NS版Fortnite但無玩,
爆出偷個資事件後,
先開始係PC裝Epic Games Launcher拎免費遊戲。
(心諗被爆料後,應該安全了吧…)

不過,由於佢目前無Steam、PS4、XBOX ONE果類成就/獎盃系統,
所以其實一直只係拎PC版免費遊戲但無玩…
(一直努力清緊自己買的付費遊戲中)


有少少唔明,
其實宜家就係我係iPad裝Netflix、Spotify、蘋果日報等,
都可以經佢哋各自的官網用信用卡、預付卡付款,
咁Apple點抽「蘋果稅」?

同樣都係繞過蘋果付費機制,
點解又無事?

不過,今次Epic Games指蘋果違反美國反壟斷法,
又整埋仿Apple 1984經典廣告短片咁,
擺明挑機…
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NexTony 01:05 PM 08-14-20
作者: IDGAF:

有少少唔明,
其實宜家就係我係iPad裝Netflix、Spotify、蘋果日報等,
同樣都係繞過蘋果付費機制,
點解又無事?
subscription != in-app purchases

also spotify/netflix does need to pay apple if the user is paying the subscription via iphone/ipad etc
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IDGAF 01:06 PM 08-14-20
作者: NexTony:
subscription != in-app purchases
係喎,遊戲有代幣、道具類的東東可以賣…
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leungky1 04:26 PM 08-14-20
隻野入S2後持續衰退緊,疫情下都有啲跑輸大市
所以今次最大因由都係錢
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IDGAF 06:50 PM 08-14-20
見Viu TV的電視新聞(NOW新聞)都有報導。

騰訊有份投資遊戲遭蘋果及谷歌下架
https://news.now.com/home/finance/player?newsId=401726
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風間鈴木仁 11:38 AM 08-15-20
https://www.gameapps.hk/news/40581/Epic-Apple

Epic挑戰Apple 成功未知 另一邊反而被起訴涉嫌侵權

據Polygon消息,Epic在新賽季中加入的「珊瑚城堡」遭到同名的佛羅里達巨石陣(珊瑚城堡—Coral Castle)起訴。

2.
https://www.gameapps.hk/news/40560/A...-THE-APP-STORE

遊戲商注意小心貪字得個貧 iOS版《Fortnite》示範被下架

全球範圍內人氣火爆的多人射擊遊戲《Fortnite》被蘋果從App Store下架,蘋果方面稱Epic違反了指導協議,而Epic也則似乎對此早有準備,已經正式起訴蘋果。
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qwe 11:44 AM 08-15-20
IOS係可以唔經App store裝野(只係煩D),有乜好告?
超市唔俾你上架都告?
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iu fu pig 12:11 PM 08-15-20
Switch裝完玩兩下都放棄了,唔岩玩大逃殺遊戲
唔比錢蘋果賺點可以比你繼續上架⋯⋯

不過估計好快腳軟跪低架喇
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pet3 12:18 PM 08-15-20
google都落架了

佢現在的情況和上ps平台但唔比平台權費一樣
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mrk 12:03 AM 08-18-20
作者: qwe:
IOS係可以唔經App store裝野(只係煩D),有乜好告?
超市唔俾你上架都告?
大陸公司係咁衰架!
偷雞唔成,咪再黎招惡人先告狀啦!

PS:不嬲討論手機Game有「課金抽獎式」制度既人上!
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qwe 02:44 PM 08-18-20
Apple removed Fortnite from the App Store and has informed Epic that on Friday, August 28 Apple will terminate all our developer accounts and cut Epic off from iOS and Mac development tools. We are asking the court to stop this retaliation.

小二 花生~
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IDGAF 05:59 PM 08-18-20
暫時食花生mode中…

但事件發展落去,最終會唔會影響到我哋玩家呢?


Epic 表示如《要塞英雄》未遵守規定 蘋果將撤銷 Epic 在 iOS、Mac 平台開發工具權限
https://gnn.gamer.com.tw/detail.php?sn=201807

蘋果重拳反擊Epic,準備封殺所有Unreal開發工具
https://www.4gamers.com.tw/news/deta...from-its-tools


Fortnite Drama Heats Up: Epic To Lose Apple Dev Accounts | Save State

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apFrjIajYfY

Epic Games has filed for a temporary restraining order against Apple, after Apple announced it would be cutting off Epic's developer accounts for iOS and Mac, including those it uses to work on the Unreal Engine. WB Montreal is teasing a new Batman game, and a free co-op mode is coming to Ghost of Tsushima later this year.

In today's gaming news, the lawsuit between Apple and Epic Games heats up. Epic Games has filed for a temporary restraining order against Apple, after Apple announced it would be cutting off Epic's developer accounts for iOS and Mac, including those it uses to work on the Unreal Engine.


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DevilElvis 06:19 PM 08-18-20
Fortnite唯一生機就係打反壟斷法

不過打反壟斷法官司鬥長命 Epic game有冇咁長命玩?

唔比用Unreal engine佢哋死得啦

Sony (PS5) 今舖有冇上錯船呢
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DevilElvis 09:07 PM 08-18-20
Epic Games 指 Apple 此舉對 Unreal Engine 的生存構成威脅,破壞他們現時的業務和信譽,對他們與客戶信任的破壞將無法量化和彌補。

Epic 在上週四推出繞過 App Store 的購買系統後 1 小時,就向法庭入稟控告 Apple,他們一直認為 App Store 的 30% 分成過高,但有網民指 Epic Games 向玩家提供的折扣少於 30%,認為他們只是想賺盡所有錢。


講得咁好聽做被害者,原來自己都係仆街嚟
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qwe 10:10 PM 08-18-20
作者: DevilElvis:
Fortnite唯一生機就係打反壟斷法

不過打反壟斷法官司鬥長命 Epic game有冇咁長命玩?

唔比用Unreal engine佢哋死得啦

Sony (PS5) 今舖有冇上錯船呢
唔會影響到PS5吧,唔同平台
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Head Shooter 10:27 PM 08-18-20
epic抵死
又要用人地個平台又唔比錢人

支持apple玩死epic
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D.K. 01:23 PM 08-19-20
兩個爛佬打交. 兩邊都係為自己爭利益
支持邊一面對我都冇好處.

最好係EPIC 先切斷任何中資關係
呢樣直接對全世界有好處
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jos 02:20 PM 08-19-20

第二度FW o黎
可以比較o下
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DevilElvis 03:57 PM 08-19-20
係Epic自已做得特別平?
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Heaven 05:50 PM 08-19-20
自己玩串個party無用嫁 最尾都會認輸
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Sar8 01:40 PM 08-24-20
微軟撐EPIC
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Squall-Lucifer 03:28 PM 08-24-20
作者: DevilElvis:
係Epic自已做得特別平?
Epic在自家商城本來就用低分成來搶Steam等商城的客(廠商)
今次是在Game內加入了Apple和Google不批准的自家課金手段,以避開兩間公司的Apple apps store和Google Play課金,從而不再分成給兩間公司
這是違反了在兩間公司上架的條款,自然被BAN了
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Sgodkyo 04:11 PM 08-25-20
第一,epic game store 自己做緊12%抽成(steam 係30% )從開發者角度epic 先係良心

第二,禁unreal 現階段邊個傷好難講,手機市場一定冇左忽肉,但unreal 本身就主攻高端嘅pc同家用機,呢招對epic係會傷,但唔入肉

第三,遊戲而家仲需要平台,但冇人知下一個五年咩事,如果 cloud gaming 發展成熟, apple可以自動收皮

今次epic 未必係最佳時機,但唔係冇得鬥
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