2012歐國杯討論區------終極一戰

[某F]

德國食唔食到提子呢?

[ALEX CHOW]

作者: BOYBOYBOY

俄羅斯仍然仲係黑馬格,但唔方走得遠

個俄羅斯新星好得

who??

[Fean]

作者: BOYBOYBOY

俄羅斯仍然仲係黑馬格,但唔方走得遠

個俄羅斯新星好得

入兩球果個？走位同射術好勁。
你就正喇，之前傳車仔同熱刺都想買。
佢而家喺中央陸軍踢緊，中央陸軍幕後班主就係油王……　
踢完Euro可能會內部調升　

[シスグノ]

作者: Fean

之前Fifa出過新指引，話一般嚟講黃加12碼就夠，避免又紅又12碼，除非動作好難睇或者係非常蓄意。因為紅加十二碼某程度上係雙倍懲罰。

邊有咁嘅指引呀....!?

唔好亂講呀...

（1）破壞明顯入球機會 ﹣ 一定係直紅。如果係點球區域內發生，就一定判攻方得一點球（即十二碼）。

不容置疑。

你可能誤會咗。上述情況只可應用於「不是破壞明顯入球機會」。

[Fean]

作者: シスグノ

邊有咁嘅指引呀....!?

唔好亂講呀...

其實我都唔係好清楚，因為搵唔到相關official條文。我都係聽何輝同旁述果個退休球證講過好多次。同埋睇ESPN話　－

A FIFA panel proposed Tuesday that referees be more lenient with players who foul in the penalty area.

The FIFA Task Force Football 2014 led by Franz Beckenbauer agreed that the so-called "triple punishment" of penalty, red card and suspension is too severe.

"A penalty is enough if it is a simple foul or a tackle where you try to get the ball but you are a second late," said Beckenbauer, a World Cup-winning player and coach with West Germany. "If you have a violent foul, if it would have been a red card anywhere on the field, then it's a penalty and a red card."

Red cards would still be given for handball offenses that stop a certain goal, under the 20-member panel's proposal.

Fifa.com同幾個大體育網站都有相關資料，我諗應該唔係流…

上季CCC成日出迎撲跌人，禁區裡面都係輸12碼 + 黃　

補充返少少fifa.com上嘅資料

Fair play to the fore

The meeting proper began with a discussion of a new Fair Play campaign. “We want to harness the power of football in a campaign focusing on fair play, and make an active contribution to school life by founding our actions on the values of discipline,” commented Beckenbauer, who suggested promoting the ten golden rules in conjunction with the national associations. “Honour has to be more than just a word, and what we aim to do is launch a FIFA-backed global campaign to reinforce the Fair Play Code.”

The next topic up for debate was the offside rule and the objective of making it easier for referees to interpret. Following a discussion, the members of the FIFA Task Force Football 2014 agreed on a proposal to amend Law 11.

The “triple punishment” of red card, penalty and suspension for offences inside the penalty box was also on the agenda. The general view was that a penalty and a yellow card should be awarded for the least serious fouls committed in the box, with a red card being reserved for only the most dangerous fouls.

The corresponding proposals will be put to the International Football Association Board (IFAB) for their approval, and included on the agenda of its 126th Annual General Meeting, which will take place on 3 March 2012. FIFA Secretary General Jerome Valcke also commented that the IFAB will be taking another look at goal-line technologies.

The Task Force members also suggested that coaches who have been sent off should not leave the stands at half-time and should not therefore have access to their team’s dressing room.

In accordance with a study currently being conducted by UEFA, it was proposed that abandoned matches completed on a later date should recommence at the point at which play was interrupted rather than being replayed in full. Furthermore, as is the case at FIFA World Cup™ finals matches, a total of 12 substitutes should be allowed on the bench rather than the current limit of seven. This proposal will also be analysed at the forthcoming IFAB AGM.

Other topics raised at Wednesday meeting included the progress made by the women’s game and a raft of amendments to the rules of beach soccer, drafted by the Beach Soccer working group.

The FIFA Task Force Football 2014 meeting completed the round of meetings held by FIFA’s four Task Forces this week, the results of which will now be

[yeah yeah]

我反而覺得尋日希臘上半埸個張紅有問題.....

[Gundam MK-2]

作者: yeah yeah

我反而覺得尋日希臘上半埸個張紅有問題.....

果張擺明係過嚴
唯一解釋係果下太刀光劍影,快到球證以為聖鬥士特登推人落地囉......

[Fean]

作者: yeah yeah

我反而覺得尋日希臘上半埸個張紅有問題.....

根本上佢食果兩張黃都有問題，第一球只係起跳擺手，咁又黃，好無奈。唔知有冇得上訢。

[シスグノ]

作者: Fean

其實我都唔係好清楚，因為搵唔到相關official條文。我都係聽何輝同旁述果個退休球證講過好多次。同埋睇ESPN話　－

A FIFA panel proposed Tuesday that referees be more lenient with players who foul in the penalty area.

The FIFA Task Force Football 2014 led by Franz Beckenbauer agreed that the so-called "triple punishment" of penalty, red card and suspension is too severe.

"A penalty is enough if it is a simple foul or a tackle where you try to get the ball but you are a second late," said Beckenbauer, a World Cup-winning player and coach with West Germany. "If you have a violent foul, if it would have been a red card anywhere on the field, then it's a penalty and a red card."

Red cards would still be given for handball offenses that stop a certain goal, under the 20-member panel's proposal.

Fifa.com同幾個大體育網站都有相關資料，我諗應該唔係流…

上季CCC成日出迎撲跌人，禁區裡面都係輸12碼 + 黃　

補充返少少fifa.com上嘅資料

Fair play to the fore

The meeting proper began with a discussion of a new Fair Play campaign. “We want to harness the power of football in a campaign focusing on fair play, and make an active contribution to school life by founding our actions on the values of discipline,” commented Beckenbauer, who suggested promoting the ten golden rules in conjunction with the national associations. “Honour has to be more than just a word, and what we aim to do is launch a FIFA-backed global campaign to reinforce the Fair Play Code.”

The next topic up for debate was the offside rule and the objective of making it easier for referees to interpret. Following a discussion, the members of the FIFA Task Force Football 2014 agreed on a proposal to amend Law 11.

The “triple punishment” of red card, penalty and suspension for offences inside the penalty box was also on the agenda. The general view was that a penalty and a yellow card should be awarded for the least serious fouls committed in the box, with a red card being reserved for only the most dangerous fouls.

The corresponding proposals will be put to the International Football Association Board (IFAB) for their approval, and included on the agenda of its 126th Annual General Meeting, which will take place on 3 March 2012. FIFA Secretary General Jerome Valcke also commented that the IFAB will be taking another look at goal-line technologies.

The Task Force members also suggested that coaches who have been sent off should not leave the stands at half-time and should not therefore have access to their team’s dressing room.

In accordance with a study currently being conducted by UEFA, it was proposed that abandoned matches completed on a later date should recommence at the point at which play was interrupted rather than being replayed in full. Furthermore, as is the case at FIFA World Cup™ finals matches, a total of 12 substitutes should be allowed on the bench rather than the current limit of seven. This proposal will also be analysed at the forthcoming IFAB AGM.

Other topics raised at Wednesday meeting included the progress made by the women’s game and a raft of amendments to the rules of beach soccer, drafted by the Beach Soccer working group.

The FIFA Task Force Football 2014 meeting completed the round of meetings held by FIFA’s four Task Forces this week, the results of which will now be

呢推嘢係成立嘅！

但不是應用在「明顯入球機會」，明唔明？！所以我話你應該誤會咗。

信我，我係球証。

[シスグノ]

作者: Fean

根本上佢食果兩張黃都有問題，第一球只係起跳擺手，咁又黃，好無奈。唔知有冇得上訢。

所以，其實電視睇就易，你我他都可以做球証；但一企喺場入邊，就會因為走位，角度，壓力等問題，出現問題判決嘅情況。

但當然，呢啲一等一嘅A級賽事，我會期望個球証嘅表現會好啲。

[yeah yeah]

作者: シスグノ

所以，其實電視睇就易，你我他都可以做球証；但一企喺場入邊，就會因為走位，角度，壓力等問題，出現問題判決嘅情況。

但當然，呢啲一等一嘅A級賽事，我會期望個球証嘅表現會好啲。

第一張我當你錯判...
其實到第2張時要好小心先得..因一紅..會影響哂成埸波....
球證無問旁證就比黃+紅了....唔通佢真係咁有信心自己對眼..

[Iro]

作者: yeah yeah

第一張我當你錯判...
其實到第2張時要好小心先得..因一紅..會影響哂成埸波....
球證無問旁證就比黃+紅了....唔通佢真係咁有信心自己對眼..

第一球爭頂果時希臘球員無打到波蘭球員 應該吹錯 第二球都唔應該吹 因為係攻方自己失平衡跌倒 (我係前面都講過類似情形) 不過球證應該只係睇到守方之後有出手作出推人動作 無見到攻方點解跌 咁就吹左
另外完半場前波蘭有球禁區內手球又係無問底線球證 咁明顯應該睇到 依球真係隻手壓住個波應該要吹 我覺得依個球啲證執法唔夠水準

[Fean]

作者: シスグノ

呢推嘢係成立嘅！

但不是應用在「明顯入球機會」，明唔明？！所以我話你應該誤會咗。

信我，我係球証。

IFAB個panel提出嘅修訂原先就係針對obvious goal情況作考慮，所以先提到triple punishment。

今年3月嘅時候IFAB好似開會討論過一次，決定繼續review，等候euro等大賽過左，10月先再討論amend與否。所以暫時只係作為一種球證指引，未必一定要跟足去做。所以球證可以照舊例俾紅牌都冇問題。

IFAB Agenda:

The triple punishment (penalty kick + red card + player suspension) for a player who denies an obvious goal-scoring
opportunity to an opponent moving towards his goal by an offence punishable by a penalty is widely considered to be
too severe.

A player would still receive a red card for denying an obvious goal-scoring opportunity outside of the penalty area as
well as for denying an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball, by holding or an offence
committed from behind inside his own penalty area when he has no opportunity to play the ball.

A penalty kick and a yellow card would be enough sanction for other offences that deny an obvious goal-scoring
opportunity committed by a defending player inside his own penalty area.

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所以而家呢一刻, 呢個紅係完全無問題。

仲有, 等review? 呢個遊戲跟本一直都係你急佢唔急架啦。電子, 科技, 晶片, 講咗幾耐先有而家嘅底線球証丫。

仲有, 大家有興趣有時間可以睇足球球例: Rules of the Game

仲有, 波蘭禁區內手球. 呢球波如果我落場做, 一定要判十二碼俾希臘. 因為完全無人推呢位波蘭守球員, 佢自己有意識地攞波, 但跣低手球. 無酎情, 一定係十二碼. 但就唔使俾牌 (考慮到佢係無意圖, 或者球証認為佢係不小心).

[mario0606]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w99UK41SE5A
睇返2010世界杯，6:45果球咪同尋日果下好似
咪一樣紅+12碼

[シスグノ]

作者: Iro

第一球爭頂果時希臘球員無打到波蘭球員 應該吹錯 第二球都唔應該吹 因為係攻方自己失平衡跌倒 (我係前面都講過類似情形) 不過球證應該只係睇到守方之後有出手作出推人動作 無見到攻方點解跌 咁就吹左
另外完半場前波蘭有球禁區內手球又係無問底線球證 咁明顯應該睇到 依球真係隻手壓住個波應該要吹 我覺得依個球啲證執法唔夠水準

因為底線球証既職責只係睇皮球完全過了白線沒有.

作者: yeah yeah

第一張我當你錯判...
其實到第2張時要好小心先得..因一紅..會影響哂成埸波....
球證無問旁證就比黃+紅了....唔通佢真係咁有信心自己對眼..

呢球因為疑似犯規位置係中線附近, 主裁判的位置任何一位遠邊或近邊既助理裁判都要近, 理論上佢既位置, 離犯規動作既距離, 以及角度等等, 都要比助理裁判靚. 所以係唔需要詢問其意見的.

當然, 事實係佢睇錯啦, 佢既角度企位唔夠靚. 如果佢知睇錯, 就唔會比牌啦. 所以佢好firm.

[mario0606]

Goal.com賽後評分：波蘭 1-1 希臘
歐國盃東道主之一波蘭取得夢幻般開局，但下半場希臘追平比分，同時還錯過一個十二碼……（本評分滿分為10分）



波蘭（滿分10分）

施捷斯尼 - 2 阿仙奴門將曾備受期待，但他的表現卻令人大失所望。與希臘的上半場比賽無需施捷斯尼做出撲救；而下半場他先是漏掉了對手的一記致命傳中，隨後就禁區內犯規，紅牌罰下之餘還白白送給了希臘人一個十二碼。

波尼斯治 - 5 波蘭的左後衛表現尚可，在邊路積極後上參與進攻，但最後一腳的傳球效率令人不敢恭維。

華斯利斯基 - 4 上半場的表現無可挑剔；但下半場隨著沙賓傑迪斯的出陣，華斯利斯基則變得愈發笨拙，屢屢被後者從身前占得先機。

佩古爾斯 - 5在與蘭尼斯的對抗中處於明顯優勢，但重新開球後對於困難明顯準備不足，與華斯利斯基一起並沒有盯住對方的快馬沙賓傑迪斯。

比薛斯基 - 6 依舊延續了自己在多蒙特球會擅于助攻的優秀特點，與庫巴一起成功佔領了右路走廊。而第一個入球也來起始於比薛斯基中場的搶斷。

普蘭斯基 - 5 比賽開局階段表現非常搶眼，但在球場中場犯下一些愚蠢的犯規，之後，隨著比賽的入球，他逐漸難以抵抗對手的衝擊。

韋巴斯 - 4 努力投入比賽，但經常陷入困境，太粘球。

奧拜尼亞克 - 4 波爾多攻中開局艱難，始終很難擺脫希臘對手的糾纏。

梅拉斯基 - 5 波茲南中場在5分鐘有一個絕佳機會，但不擅長的左腳射門錯過入球。此外，能合理地給翼鋒送上炮彈。

巴拉薩高斯基 - 6 隊長以身作則，從一開始直到比賽結束都在拼搶。7分鐘過頂傳球的傳中助攻利雲度夫斯基的頭鎚破門，該名多蒙特翼鋒還不停回防，球風硬朗。

利雲度夫斯基 - 6 多蒙特射手可以說閃耀全場，7分鐘攻入精彩的頭鎚，與隊友的銜接始終默契。

後備

泰頓 - 7 在施捷斯尼被罰出後，後備登場的第一次觸球，就奮力撲出對方的十二碼，獲得了急需的信心。

希臘（滿分10分）

查基亞斯 - 3 在丟球後7分鐘，他犯下一個尷尬的錯誤。整場比賽表明，缺乏對波蘭傳中的應對能力。

曼尼亞迪斯 - 4 沒有對比賽產生很大影響，該名中場球員的傳球不夠靠譜，經常丟球。

A.柏比度普路斯 - 4 上半場的防守非常艱難，多次對抗利雲度夫斯基落下風。

杜洛施迪斯 - 6上半場安靜，但在比賽2個45分鐘裡有所改善，他的傳球導致扳平比分。

柏巴斯托普里斯 - 3 整場比賽如同噩夢，他沒有足夠盯緊波蘭前鋒利雲度夫斯基，導致後者攻入頭鎚。然後在37分鐘，收到了嚴厲的第二張黃牌被罰出。

賀利巴斯 - 4前45分鐘被比薛斯基和巴拉薩高斯基的帶球蹂躪，對於丟球，嚴重失位。

卡拉高尼斯 - 3 隊長今天沒有扮演好領袖的角色。和專注於比賽相比，他相當忙碌地與球證爭執。罰失十二碼，錯過了成為英雄的機會。

蘭尼斯 - 4 沒能過多參與比賽，尤其是在上半場。在被換走之前，出現幾次丟球並犯規。

卡素蘭尼斯 - 5 與卡拉高尼斯銜接不錯，但從整場比賽看來，並沒有特別突出的表現。

森馬拉斯 - 4 沒有展現應有的水準，進攻沒有像以往那樣得心應手。儘管在不錯的位置接球，但傳球很少能產生有利影響。

基卡斯 - 4 比賽68分鐘被替換。進攻無法令人信服，浪費了兩次很好的機會。

後備

K.柏比度普路斯 - 5 比賽37分鐘換下A.柏比度普路斯，兢兢業業，但沒能找到方法。

沙賓傑迪斯 - 7 當選全場最佳。下半場開場臨危受命，5分鐘後入球取得成效，然後繼續貢獻出彩發揮。

科圖尼斯 - 4 比賽68分鐘替換基卡斯出陣，但幾乎沒有機會製造影響。(Goal.com)
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原本篇野滿分係5分，為左方便大家睇我將佢乘2
想睇原分自己除左2啦

[Fean]

作者: シスグノ

所以而家呢一刻, 呢個紅係完全無問題。

仲有, 等review? 呢個遊戲跟本一直都係你急佢唔急架啦。電子, 科技, 晶片, 講咗幾耐先有而家嘅底線球証丫。

仲有, 大家有興趣有時間可以睇足球球例: Rules of the Game

仲有, 波蘭禁區內手球. 呢球波如果我落場做, 一定要判十二碼俾希臘. 因為完全無人推呢位波蘭守球員, 佢自己有意識地攞波, 但跣低手球. 無酎情, 一定係十二碼. 但就唔使俾牌 (考慮到佢係無意圖, 或者球証認為佢係不小心).

我覺得紅牌合理，如果酌情處理可以俾黃 + 12碼。

其實我quote fifa唔係為左要幫CCC辯護，我只係想證明IFBA個agenda係有提出過相關指引，而唔係亂咁蹹當秘級　

[Fean]

CCC真係瀨野，早兩日仲講緊話心理質素同技術好左，有信心可以協助波蘭晉級。點知一嚟就出事　
兩黃一紅停一場，直紅係唔係都係停三場？

[Busconcamp]

Holland Vs Denmark

[ 4-2-3-1 ]
Maarten Stekelenburg
Gregory van der Wiel
Johnny Heitinga
Ron Vlaar
Jetro Willems
Nigel de Jong
Mark van Bommel
Arjen Robben
Wesley Sneijder
Ibrahim Afellay
Robin van Persie

[ 4-2-3-1 ]
Stephan Andersen
Lars Jacobsen
Simon Kjær
Daniel Agger
Simon Poulsen
William Kvist
Niki Zimling
Dennis Rommedahl
Christian Eriksen
Michael Krohn-Dehli
Nicklas Bendtner

[Busconcamp]

作者: Fean

CCC真係瀨野，早兩日仲講緊話心理質素同技術好左，有信心可以協助波蘭晉級。點知一嚟就出事　
兩黃一紅停一場，直紅係唔係都係停三場？

乜你唔記得佢同瑞士胡so仔一樣...衰在把口既咩...

[(=v=)b]

點解荷蘭件衫咁既~?白色袖~?乜野衫黎架~?

[mario0606]

vdv竟然sub
由手機版發出

[Busconcamp]

作者: mario0606

vdv竟然sub
由手機版發出

Arjen Robben
Wesley Sneijder
Ibrahim Afellay

有呢3人做組合...
做sub也是正常...

[小嘉]

作者: mario0606

vdv竟然sub
由手機版發出

嚴格黎講佢無位踢

你出左街??