小島秀夫對 mgs (psp) 的睇法及 ds 的少許見解 @ 手提遊戲機討論版

t-cup · 05-22-04, 11:16 PM

mgs (psp):

Metal Gear Solid the series is about stealth-action, and it requires very delicate, very fine button controls, button input. If you make a little mistake with the button input, you might be spotted by the enemy. A handheld system is just not suitable for that kind of fine input, and when I discussed it with the team, we reached the conclusion of coming up with a game that has the Metal Gear Solid look, the feel, the flavour, but something that's not action-based because of the buttons and controls. That's why we've come up with something with more strategic elements.

It's more like a side-story thing, but the thing is in Metal Gear Acid you'll probably see all the characters from Metal Gear Solids 1, 2 and 3.

註: 大致上話, mgs 係講究操縱性能. 小島秀夫認為手提系統未必適合咁細緻的輸入, 所有唔會用 action-based. 另, 個故仔係 side-story 黎, 但有相關一二及三集的人物

關於 ds:

It would be nice to have a Metal Gear game for DS, but the thing is I personally think that the audience for DS will be like that of GBA - it'll be a much younger audience. And this Metal Gear's not really suitable for them.

註: 由於記者問 mgs, 帶到 ds, 所以小島答了哩段. 佢話 ds 同 gba 的對象類似, 所以佢認為 mgs 唔太適合 ds

I'm not working on a DS game right now; it'll be nice to do one in the future. If I were to do something... If I come up with an idea that allows the player to do things that no other videogames creator would do with the two screens and the touch panel, then I'd come up with a game. I want to do something totally different. We went in the morning to take a look at the DS but there was a large queue and we couldn't see it [laughs]!

If the DS becomes really popular, I think kids will start losing their fingerprints [laughs]!

註: 小島未有 ds project o向手. 佢有興趣做 ds 的遊戲, 但要建基於未有 developers 做到佢心中所想的做法先會做 (如何運用兩個 screens 及觸式 screen). e3 其間佢嘗試想試o下 ds 實物, 但由於太多人o向場區排隊, 所以佢打消了念頭

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陸奧貴志 · 05-22-04, 11:18 PM

佢都要排隊試....?老任搞乜Q....

nick · 05-22-04, 11:24 PM

佢要排隊試!?小島秀夫帶佢個仔試玩呀??

t-cup · 05-22-04, 11:27 PM

引用:

作者: nick

佢要排隊試!?小島秀夫帶佢個仔試玩呀??

文章無正式交代咩人.. 可能你o岩

但係佢地去排隊試唔出奇, 中裕司都咁排隊玩架啦

W!LL · 05-23-04, 12:59 AM

佢都要排隊

老任禁大牌架

kaworu · 05-23-04, 01:28 AM

老任咁大牌
抵佢俾SONY 禁住黎打

啤梨王子 · 05-23-04, 09:35 AM

會唔會係全部擺哂出黎太多人
搞到佢冇得試呀??

陸奧貴志 · 05-23-04, 09:58 AM

引用:

作者: t-cup

文章無正式交代咩人.. 可能你o岩

但係佢地去排隊試唔出奇, 中裕司都咁排隊玩架啦

咁唔代表中裕司親民,只代表老任大牌

強化人間ですの～★ · 05-23-04, 10:09 AM

但試緊果D人都唔曉主動讓路既?

W!LL · 05-23-04, 10:15 AM

引用:

作者: 強化人間ですの～★

但試緊果D人都唔曉主動讓路既?

在場大多係鬼佬,可能認唔出

nick · 05-23-04, 10:28 AM

業界唔係有另一個meeting既咩!?!?
定d鬼佬太大隻逼唔入呀?

t-cup · 05-23-04, 10:30 AM

又未必話大牌.. 個人認為可能小島自己都無得試. 因為展出試玩的遊戲係其他廠做, 又唔係 konami, 所以未玩過唔出奇既.

而且展覽會前一日先 setup 好o的機 (睇實用遊戲雜誌話 11 號都未放試玩台 ), 相信要 11 號好晏時間甚至 12 號先開放俾人. 咁小島都有野做嘛, 佢有壇 mgs 3 架喎

去到唔使做呀

05-25-04, 09:11 PM

引用:

作者: 強化人間ですの～★

但試緊果D人都唔曉主動讓路既?

點解要讓路俾佢..老任想佢幫手出game就話要優待佢者..換個角度睇..我地先係小島老細啊..

龍寶寶 · 05-25-04, 09:22 PM

我覺得...可能係E3入面周圍都係星級開發人員,你係小島又怎樣,要玩,請排隊

石光 · 05-26-04, 04:04 PM

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作者: kaworu

老任咁大牌
抵佢俾SONY 禁住黎打

幾時?

路人甲乙丙 · 05-26-04, 04:20 PM

引用:

作者: 龍寶寶

我覺得...可能係E3入面周圍都係星級開發人員,你係小島又怎樣,要玩,請排隊

如果有心,一早send左樣板比game廠開發啦.

又唔見小島要玩psp排隊?

nds早過psp發售.

老任唔算大牌?

nick · 05-26-04, 04:42 PM

會唔會因為佢表明唔出gc既game入左bad list呢.

t-cup · 05-26-04, 05:31 PM

引用:

作者: 路人甲乙丙

如果有心,一早send左樣板比game廠開發啦.

又唔見小島要玩psp排隊?

nds早過psp發售.

老任唔算大牌?

我唔係咁睇喎

可能小島想睇其他創作人應用到咩地步. demo presentation 當然一定會有, 但最終o的遊戲可以做到咩地步, 你未整過出黎當然唔知. 所以佢去試其他廠作品, 有咩咁出奇?

路人甲乙丙 · 05-26-04, 05:53 PM

引用:

作者: t-cup

我唔係咁睇喎

可能小島想睇其他創作人應用到咩地步. demo presentation 當然一定會有, 但最終o的遊戲可以做到咩地步, 你未整過出黎當然唔知. 所以佢去試其他廠作品, 有咩咁出奇?

咁即係話,NDS很難應用雙mon吧?

我始終覺得老任大牌.

路人甲乙丙 · 05-26-04, 06:01 PM

引用:

作者: nick

會唔會因為佢表明唔出gc既game入左bad list呢.

佢無入左bad list卦.

gc 出左mgs-twins.

路人甲乙丙 · 05-26-04, 06:06 PM

陰謀論:小島為psp出game.

任記唔比小島排隊.

Metal Gear NT · 05-26-04, 06:42 PM

小島呢句可以有好多意思，
一係真係任記冇俾佢試，佢講呢句話窒下任記
又或者小島只係講下笑......

原來小島都覺得NDS對象係年齡層較低o既一群？
會唔會開發我們的太陽2??

nick · 05-26-04, 07:41 PM

引用:

作者: 路人甲乙丙

佢無入左bad list卦.

gc 出左mgs-twins.

就係出完mgs-tts之後先講佢果team人唔會再出gc-game.

龍寶寶 · 05-26-04, 08:23 PM

小島咪好囉,起碼佢可以去排隊玩,只係佢唔排姐

但任天堂個宮本茂就唔得,佢唔可以排隊去試玩PSP/PS2/XBOX等等的遊戲,因為佢一排就死,其他主機陣形一定大編蝠地報導:就運任天堂的宮本茂都想試玩(PSP/PS2/XBOX)的遊戲,因為可以玩到就連任天堂都無能力開發的優秀遊戲,能體驗到任天堂系主機所沒有的享受!!

Zaku · 05-26-04, 09:00 PM

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作者: 龍寶寶

skip

變成 link 走去玩

05-22-04, 11:16 PM	#1
t-cup Moderator CD-ROM 註冊日期: Dec 2001 文章: 17,046 4511 1485 9506 tcuphk2 tcuphk	小島秀夫對 mgs (psp) 的睇法及 ds 的少許見解 mgs (psp): Metal Gear Solid the series is about stealth-action, and it requires very delicate, very fine button controls, button input. If you make a little mistake with the button input, you might be spotted by the enemy. A handheld system is just not suitable for that kind of fine input, and when I discussed it with the team, we reached the conclusion of coming up with a game that has the Metal Gear Solid look, the feel, the flavour, but something that's not action-based because of the buttons and controls. That's why we've come up with something with more strategic elements. It's more like a side-story thing, but the thing is in Metal Gear Acid you'll probably see all the characters from Metal Gear Solids 1, 2 and 3. 註: 大致上話, mgs 係講究操縱性能. 小島秀夫認為手提系統未必適合咁細緻的輸入, 所有唔會用 action-based. 另, 個故仔係 side-story 黎, 但有相關一二及三集的人物關於 ds: It would be nice to have a Metal Gear game for DS, but the thing is I personally think that the audience for DS will be like that of GBA - it'll be a much younger audience. And this Metal Gear's not really suitable for them. 註: 由於記者問 mgs, 帶到 ds, 所以小島答了哩段. 佢話 ds 同 gba 的對象類似, 所以佢認為 mgs 唔太適合 ds I'm not working on a DS game right now; it'll be nice to do one in the future. If I were to do something... If I come up with an idea that allows the player to do things that no other videogames creator would do with the two screens and the touch panel, then I'd come up with a game. I want to do something totally different. We went in the morning to take a look at the DS but there was a large queue and we couldn't see it [laughs]! If the DS becomes really popular, I think kids will start losing their fingerprints [laughs]! 註: 小島未有 ds project o向手. 佢有興趣做 ds 的遊戲, 但要建基於未有 developers 做到佢心中所想的做法先會做 (如何運用兩個 screens 及觸式 screen). e3 其間佢嘗試想試o下 ds 實物, 但由於太多人o向場區排隊, 所以佢打消了念頭 full story here: click

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nick God of Gamer 註冊日期: Sep 2002 文章: 7,363	業界唔係有另一個meeting既咩!?!? 定d鬼佬太大隻逼唔入呀? __________________ www.fotop.net/nickYip PHOTO OF AC Wii http://www.fotop.net/nickYip/AC NDS GAME FC mph FC: nick 0601-9706-0534 content fc:nick 3007-1618-1079 動森fc:5369-4190-3879 wii fc 3221-5238-1799-9879 //pm fc /4424-6802-0768 //mkwii fc 105.2621-2747-8510//日動物之森 fc: /3738-3048-3107 惡魔:3652-5761-5259 3ds:2363-5574-3483

05-23-04, 10:30 AM	#12
t-cup Moderator CD-ROM 註冊日期: Dec 2001 文章: 17,046 4511 1485 9506 tcuphk2 tcuphk	又未必話大牌.. 個人認為可能小島自己都無得試. 因為展出試玩的遊戲係其他廠做, 又唔係 konami, 所以未玩過唔出奇既. 而且展覽會前一日先 setup 好o的機 (睇實用遊戲雜誌話 11 號都未放試玩台 ), 相信要 11 號好晏時間甚至 12 號先開放俾人. 咁小島都有野做嘛, 佢有壇 mgs 3 架喎去到唔使做呀

05-25-04, 09:22 PM	#14
龍寶寶天才兒童訓練營明天會更好註冊日期: Dec 2001 文章: 19,015 bobogaf 4565-6477-0890 2793 0561 7788 bobogaf bobogaf	我覺得...可能係E3入面周圍都係星級開發人員,你係小島又怎樣,要玩,請排隊 __________________ 全力清GAME中...

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nick God of Gamer 註冊日期: Sep 2002 文章: 7,363	會唔會因為佢表明唔出gc既game入左bad list呢. __________________ www.fotop.net/nickYip PHOTO OF AC Wii http://www.fotop.net/nickYip/AC NDS GAME FC mph FC: nick 0601-9706-0534 content fc:nick 3007-1618-1079 動森fc:5369-4190-3879 wii fc 3221-5238-1799-9879 //pm fc /4424-6802-0768 //mkwii fc 105.2621-2747-8510//日動物之森 fc: /3738-3048-3107 惡魔:3652-5761-5259 3ds:2363-5574-3483

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05-26-04, 06:42 PM	#22
Metal Gear NT Moderator 核搭載二足步行戰車註冊日期: Oct 2002 文章: 20,122 jasonpoon	小島呢句可以有好多意思，一係真係任記冇俾佢試，佢講呢句話窒下任記又或者小島只係講下笑...... 原來小島都覺得NDS對象係年齡層較低o既一群？會唔會開發我們的太陽2?? __________________ All things Apple. Mac 討論版 \| iPod/iPhone + iTunes 討論區 XI

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