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舊 01-12-09, 12:25 PM   #1
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PlayStation 4 in 3D

PlayStation 4 in 3D
Will Sony's next system be coupled with 3D glasses?

by Chris Roper
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January 9, 2009 - CES 2009 is currently underway in Las Vegas, and while there are tons of home audio systems, DVD and Blu-ray players, touchscreen phones and other miscellaneous cool gadgets to be seen and played with, perhaps the biggest theme this year is 3D. Long gone are the days of the blue and red paper glasses, replaced with polarized lenses or even standalone displays that promise they can provide the effect without having to wear anything on your head.

3D is getting big in Hollywood as well, and fast. James Cameron has long been working on Avatar, a 3D-only film, and has said that all of his future work will be shot in 3D. At Sony's CES press conference this year, there were announcements that Toy Story 1 and 2 would be re-released in 3D, and a third film would be coming in the same form. Dreamworks announced that all of its future projects would be in 3D. The list goes on and on…

But that's not all. At Sony's booth, a handful of PlayStation 3 titles were running 3D demos, including WipEout HD, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue and MotorStorm: Pacific Rift. Our guys that have seen it say it's pretty amazing.



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A look at Sony's 3D demo for CES 2009.

Sony is keeping mum on exactly how these games are working, if they're just tech demos and not ever intended for release and so forth. For my part, it sounds to me like all three of these games will be patched with 3D viewing capabilities at some point in the future. And, it could also explain why we haven't seen Gran Turismo 5 proper yet - it could be that the game is meant to be played in 3D and we'll see it running as such at E3.

But what about other content? Will every (or even just some) PS3 games get a 3D viewing option? Could a firmware update bring the content to everyone? Maybe, maybe not. But it seems to me that it's likely that the PlayStation 4 will be built from the ground-up for 3D content, including Blu-ray discs for movies.

Don't try crossing your eyes.One of Sony's problems in the past, as a company on the whole, is that its bits and pieces haven't worked all that well together. For example, you can't download music to the PlayStation 3, which is a giant missed opportunity given Sony's large catalog of tunes. Movies took forever to get there, etc. etc. But the company is struggling (as are most these days), and a more cohesive approach to all of this would help things. It's one of the initiatives that Howard Stringer was pushing for when he took over a few years back, and things are getting better, with stuff like the XMB showing up in both its gaming devices and displays, and Blu-ray being a major focus for the company.

Releasing the PlayStation 4 with full-on 3D viewing capabilities would be a game-changing move, especially if the next Xbox and Nintendo systems don't follow suit. As mentioned, it apparently sounds amazing, which is obviously a good thing for Sony fans. But it would also give the PS4 that same sort of nifty catch that has gotten so many people to buy a Wii. Wiggling joysticks around is nothing compared to seeing objects jump out of the screen.

Included with every system?For the company as a whole, this would also give a bit boost to Sony Pictures Entertainment and the overall electronics division as bring 3D movies to our homes is obviously next on the to-do list for a lot of makers. It's going that way in the theaters, so you can bet it's going to wind up at home sooner than later.

At this point, I'd be willing to throw down $20 (I'm not a rich man) that the PlayStation 4 will be primarily a 3D viewing system. I'll honestly be somewhat disappointed if it's not.
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舊 01-12-09, 12:43 PM   #2
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我本身無試過,其實載依種眼鏡玩會唔會令原本隻game隻色改變左?(因為眼鏡片係有色)


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舊 01-12-09, 12:45 PM   #3
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我本身無試過,其實載依種眼鏡玩會唔會令原本隻game隻色改變左?(因為眼鏡片係有色)
應該會有變色, 但我諗如果你較左3d mode會自動tune 返d色掛
呢隻已經好過以前的紅綠3d眼鏡, 個d真係睇到眼花


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舊 01-12-09, 12:49 PM   #4
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現有的3D技術中, 無論是imax或者廸士尼樂園內的3D movie, 效果都很立體, 但似乎都不大適合長時間進行的遊戲.

看看jc拍攝Avatar的新技術如何吧
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舊 01-12-09, 12:51 PM   #5
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呢個3D glasses 香港個Game show都有
我同我女友重試左好耐

技術上面仍要改進
靜止物件嘅3D效果好明顯
但係画面移動or高速
3D效果就得返4成

副3D glasses 載起上嚟反而唔係太辛苦
個人比較buy Dutch 個3D 投射多d


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舊 01-12-09, 12:53 PM   #6
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應該會有變色, 但我諗如果你較左3d mode會自動tune 返d色掛
呢隻已經好過以前的紅綠3d眼鏡, 個d真係睇到眼花
用紅綠鏡睇ATV睇到嘔

Anyway, 之前在Nico見過一段片
可以唔用眼鏡, 影像都有3D立體感出現
(用一隻公仔做tech demo的)
但唔知段片係唔係真野...
如果係真就真係好勁

此篇文章於 01-12-09 12:55 PM 被 KUTAR# 編輯。
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舊 01-12-09, 12:55 PM   #7
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用紅綠鏡睇ATV睇到嘔

Anyway, 之前在Nico見過一段片
可以唔用眼鏡, 影像都有3D立體感出現
(用一隻公仔做tech demo的)
但唔知係唔係真野...
係真

咪就係Dutch 個3D 投射


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那個dutch還有影片看嗎?(link pls)
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應該會有變色, 但我諗如果你較左3d mode會自動tune 返d色掛
呢隻已經好過以前的紅綠3d眼鏡, 個d真係睇到眼花
你係指係隻game度做錯隻色,之後一載眼鏡之後隻色會修正翻?
紅綠3d眼鏡好難頂~
我只有細時去老鼠樂園,所以依家唔sure,
老鼠樂園的mj電影和環球城的未來戰士(無記錯都要載眼鏡,而且個場會噴水)又係用邊種鏡?

講起3d眼鏡,我細個時去外國,(忘了係日本定係英國)在sega的機鋪中有個大型未來戰機game,
當時的3d好生硬,不過玩隻game時要載個好似vb那樣的眼罩,
你個頭移動時,畫面跟隨移動.(e.g頭向上望時,畫面會改為望上天之類)


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舊 01-12-09, 01:00 PM   #9
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應該會有變色, 但我諗如果你較左3d mode會自動tune 返d色掛
呢隻已經好過以前的紅綠3d眼鏡, 個d真係睇到眼花
玩得哩啲,
個電視畫面會比平時光成倍,
因為左右鏡片各會cut咗部份唔需要顯示既光(影像)
個電視會死快啲
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舊 01-12-09, 01:05 PM   #10
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係真

咪就係Dutch 個3D 投射
really? 個投射真係好勁......
個公仔好似真係摸到咁

但個技術洗唔洗用特殊的顯示器呢?
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舊 01-12-09, 02:05 PM   #11
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那個dutch還有影片看嗎?(link pls)
無link

佢係好似1-2年前開發出嚟
喺一個Tech Conference公布嘅時候係喺Stage上面投射3D影像好似波, 車咁
今曰已經去到喺一個電視size都做到
缺點係只有一個"浮空"嘅個體
而background係無嘅
即係有車無道路, 有人無背景咁

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really? 個投射真係好勁......
個公仔好似真係摸到咁

但個技術洗唔洗用特殊的顯示器呢?
唔洗特殊的顯示器
因為係多重投射而產生3D效果
即係空氣就係顯示器


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舊 01-12-09, 03:46 PM   #15
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PlayStation 4 in 3D
Will Sony's next system be coupled with 3D glasses?

by Chris Roper
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/943/943740p1.html

But that's not all. At Sony's booth, a handful of PlayStation 3 titles were running 3D demos, including WipEout HD, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue and MotorStorm: Pacific Rift. Our guys that have seen it say it's pretty amazing.
佢都係用現成嘅Games做3D Demo咋喎
你咁快就開發成本加大?????


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佢都係用現成嘅Games做3D Demo咋喎
你咁快就開發成本加大?????
oh, 我認我懶... 無睇晒內文...
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係HK DISNEY睇過3D電影,
本身有近視帶con+佢果款3D眼鏡睇完一套約15分鐘的電影。

睇完之後超頭痛…
但係同行無近視的人又無事喎。

唔知用係GAME會點?
我覺得用係FPS、賽車(車內主觀視點)等會好正。


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無link

佢係好似1-2年前開發出嚟
喺一個Tech Conference公布嘅時候係喺Stage上面投射3D影像好似波, 車咁
今曰已經去到喺一個電視size都做到
缺點係只有一個"浮空"嘅個體
而background係無嘅
即係有車無道路, 有人無背景咁



唔洗特殊的顯示器
因為係多重投射而產生3D效果
即係空氣就係顯示器
係youtube上面搵cheoptic 360就可以搵到,不過並唔係係空氣投射立體影像,而係平面的


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舊 01-13-09, 10:40 AM   #20
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係youtube上面搵cheoptic 360就可以搵到,不過並唔係係空氣投射立體影像,而係平面的
謝!
下面條片我覺得幾好, 有與趣可以睇吓
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=tlwcROCouWw


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其實紅白機時就有3D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-D_WorldRunner
果陣應該係用紅藍眼鏡, D色會變晒..

而家廸士尼果D係用偏振鏡, 原理用紅藍眼鏡都係一樣, 效果比紅藍眼鏡好.
不過普通LCD應該未必做到...
睇完會唔會頭暈應該人人唔同, 我唔覺得有乜問題, 暫時應該係最可行既3D方法..

另外旺角火車站有個特別既LCD電視, 可以唔駛用任何工具, 都可以有少量3D效果, 有興趣可以去睇下, 不過之前旺角站整緊野, 個電視唔知仲係唔係度..
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舊 01-13-09, 12:12 PM   #22
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其實紅白機時就有3D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-D_WorldRunner
果陣應該係用紅藍眼鏡, D色會變晒..

而家廸士尼果D係用偏振鏡, 原理用紅藍眼鏡都係一樣, 效果比紅藍眼鏡好.
不過普通LCD應該未必做到...
睇完會唔會頭暈應該人人唔同, 我唔覺得有乜問題, 暫時應該係最可行既3D方法..

另外旺角火車站有個特別既LCD電視, 可以唔駛用任何工具, 都可以有少量3D效果, 有興趣可以去睇下, 不過之前旺角站整緊野, 個電視唔知仲係唔係度..
之前沙田連城都有
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嚮戲院睇過3D版既貝奧武夫(魔武王), 好立體, 比起以前紅紅綠綠既所謂「立體」好好多, 而且睇左個幾鐘都無覺得攰 or 眼痛.

我諗而家既3D技術已經頗成熟, 問題係家用器材都要做到的話個成本有幾高.
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舊 01-13-09, 09:05 PM   #24
fantasy俊仔
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我想知呢個又係咩技術? 係咪類似o既野黎?



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舊 01-13-09, 11:46 PM   #25
Ho1982
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唔同,E個係互動模擬3D, 其實現場睇係平面來...
有D似以前有隻警察射擊街機, 遊戲會跟你個身體移動而有變化..

當然其實兩個技術冇衝突, 係可以一齊用, 不過缺點係互動模擬3D只可以比一個人玩..
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